
The Two World Wars
The Meadows during the floods of 1947
The Meadows during the demolition of the 1970's
In Lunacy, the story of Mary Yale of Leeds.
My Family History
On this page we will feature requests from family historians who are looking for information or photographs of the Old Meadows, so if you are researching your family history and want a picture of the house where aunt Vera was born, or the pub where uncle Pete was landlord or you just want to renew old acquaintances from the past send your requests to any of my usual email addresses and I will put it on this page for people to see.
If I do put your request on the page, please email me and let me know if you get a result!!!
Alison in Leicester would like to know if anyone has a photograph of the chip shop on the corner of Arkwright Street. She and her family lived there between 1966 and 1968. Contact Alison at AlsWilson@aol.com
Pat Bowbanks from southern California would like to know the whereabouts of her old friend Kay Hopkinson. Pat says "I had a really good friend Kay Hopkinson who married Steven Middleton when she was sixteen years old she was my best friend all my life I would love to get in touch with her . I met her again in my 20's and then I just lost touch again. We lived near the Taylor's Edna and Tom daughter Shirley and Pat I think ' where are they Shirley was my sister's best friend for years also."
Anyone that can help put Pat in touch with her friends can contact her at Bowbanks@aol.com
A request from me now. I am interested in obtaining an old street map of the Meadows that shows all the side streets and terraces. If anyone has one that they no longer want or would like to sell please let me know at one of the the usual addresses.
Sharon Sandford has emailed this request for information about her grandmothers sister.
Smit Hopwood has sent in this request.
"My father had a bookbinders in an old needle factory in Willersley Street. He died in 1969 and just after that it was all demolished. There was an entry to his workshop and shop on the corner selling crockery and pots and pans. I would love to see a map of that area, and any old photographs of that street."
Anyone with any information can email Smit at smitathome@hotmail.com
Maureen Ash in London has sent in the following request.
"I was taking another look at the old Bosworth School that my brothers and i used to go to, Roland & Glenn Ash, we used to live in Briar Street, then moved round to 168 Wilford Road, I would be so grateful if you have any pictures on them streets as im now living in London, and its so nice to look back on those happy years being in the Meadows, just wish we could all relive it all over again."
Anyone able to help Maureen can contact her at CHILLEDHART@aol.com
Carole Wolfe from Mission, B.C. Canada has emailed this request.
"I was hoping to find a picture of the Mayfield Grove Chapel. I believe it was on the corner of Kirke White Street and Mayfield Grove. My great grandparents were married there in 1892. If you ever get one, please put it up. These great grandparents emigrated to Canada in 1905."
Anyone able to help Carole can contact her at cwolfe1@shaw.ca
I recently received this email from Jon in Oxford.
"I collect postcards of the place I live (Oxford) and occasionally I try to repatriate postcards which have been used. Today I've been looking at a couple which were sent to "Miss Gladys Patrick, 85 Arkwright Street, Nottingham". A quick search on the web seemed to suggest that you might be able to help in tracking down any living relatives of this lady. As far as I can tell Arkwright Street still exists, though I can't find any references to numbers near 85 (maybe that part has been redeveloped?).
Anyway, if you think that it would fit in anywhere on your website perhaps you could put a small ad from me saying that I've got these two old postcards, sent to Gladys Patrick of 85 Arkwright Street, which I'd be happy to send to any living relative or the current occupiers of 85 Arkwright Street. I should mention that I would not want any payment of any sort, the postcards only cost me a few pence. "
Anyone who can help Jon in his quest can contact him by email at jon.dsouzaeva@mirada-solutions.com
Following my item about the book "Poetic Reflections of my Meadows Childhood." by John (Gibbo) Gibbons, I received an email from his cousin, Ray Goodhall. Ray would love to hear from John again. Ray can be contacted at care_bear_sa@btinternet.com
Another of John's cousins, Eileen Holmes, is also trying to get in touch with him. She hasn't seen or heard from John in many years. If anyone knows of John's whereabouts Eileen can be contacted at ejholmes@tiscali.co.uk
I am looking for anyone who might have information about my grandfather John (Jack) William Brown. Jack was born at Pleasley in Mansfield on 6th January 1910. His father was called Walter and his mother's name was Rachel. During World War 2 Jack was evacuated at Dunkirk and later served in Burma.
Jack married my grandmother, Amelia Corthorn in about 1953. He had a brother who kept a boarding house at Blackpool and a sister, Minnie, who had a haberdashery on Wilford Road in the Meadows.
Minnies daughter, Jean Bowler, also lived in the Meadows. We also think that there were more sisters living at Booths Cresent in Pleasley. If anyone has any information about Jack they can contact me at info@theoldmeadows.co.uk or they can write to me at 110 Minerva Street, Bulwell, Nottingham NG6 8GR.
Andrew Bullock has sent this recent enquiry to me.
The picture is from a website called http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/ If you go to the search page. find the Meadows pages, go to page 29 and the picture number is NTGM000363
Andrew can be contacted at andrew.bullock4@ntlworld.com
I`m really enjoying your pages on The Meadows. I`m trying to contact anyone who knew Sidney Sellars, who worked at the ROF in 1943/44. He was a friend of my family . I tried to access the ROF site, but with no luck, hoping there may be a photograph or some information on Sid.
Yours Sincerely, Victoria Victoria can be contacted on her email address at vicki@personainternet.com and another from Victoria
Yours Sincerely Victoria [`toria]
Could you help us.we are looking for information about either bunbury street or brussels terrace as my girlfriend's father lived there during,and just after,the war.the family name was Ryder.hope you can please help. Jh7260@aol.com
This plea for help comes from Thomas Clarke who can be contacted at clarkey_10_21_88@hotmail.com
hi i'm enquiring about some information about peggy walker/naylor or margaret shiela hughes who used to live at kingsmeadow road. the reason for my enquiry is because one of these women is my mother and i woould hope to find out a bit about either of them. i have supspicions that they lived next door to each other and that i might have been passed over the fence. i think that mrs walkers had a first husband named stanley walker. if anyone has any news good or bad gossip or evidentual i would love to here from you. can someone solve the mystery that is my life.
Dear Sir,
My mother Florence Hollingsworth and her parents lived
in Waterway Street in The Meadows i too lived their
for a very short while until i was about nine i think.
I wonder if you could ask on your site if anyone
remembers my mother and grandparents, i am trying to
trace my family tree without much success.
My mother died a couple of years ago and never did
talk about her side of the family, so i dont have a
lot to go on.
Mom married a G.I named Donald Howe while she was
living down there.
Thankyou
Carol Seeney nee Howe c_seeney@yahoo.com
Hello Paul
http://www.1914-1918.net, "The Long, Long Trail"
http://www.1914-1918.org, "Great War Family Research"
Thanks. OlsenVolsen@aol.com
On looking at your site on the Meadows with my husband (Alan Young), we came across a picture sent in by a lady called Lesley Donald who now lives in Albany, Western Australia. My husband knew a Lesley Nutter who moved to Australia when he lived in Lammas Street in the Meadows, when he was a young lad. He is now 55 and Lesley would be around the same age (if this is the lady he knew). If you could contact this lady on our behalf to see if it is the lady who my husband knew (Alan Young) we would be very grateful. I know it would be a wonderful surprise for Alan if she contacted him through email after such a long time. Alan's email address is alan.d.young@ntlworld.com. If you could do this we would be very grateful. If you could reply to let us know the outcome we would also be very grateful. Thank you.
Hi,
I've just been looking through your wonderful website, as I am a descendant of Meadows people. I know you are only covering from the Second World War onwards, but I was just wondering if you could help me? My GGrandfather owned the pub on London Road opposite the Ford Garage, which is now called The Norfolk Arms. Do you know if it used to be called that? My Granddad used to drive a horse and cart to pick up the beer barrels aged 14, and he met my Grandma there, when she worked there as a bar maid (so it would have been around 1928-1944). My Dad wasn't told a lot about it. I think they lived on Crocus Street at one point. I have various pictures of my Gran's family at home (they also lived in the Meadows) but I'd love to find a picture of what the pub used to look like, or even one with my family in!! I have no idea when the pub changed hands. Thanks for your time, I. Burton. adam.isobel1@ntlworld.com
Bob Radford, formerly of Wilford Grove sent this message.
hi paul i wonder if any of your readers can remember the boats on the trent in summer
i worked on them with my dad he had a boat called chatnor moored at treverthicks along side boats called sucsess victory and sunrise
and sometimes i would help brookhouse with there boats or ciral baggley who owned the boats lowside trent bridge the boats were called playmate ballerina and western lady i was 7 years old in 47 i was on them till 1954 or 5 then i went to grimsby and hull fishing and tugs and big boats hopes this jogs a few memorys i lived on wilford grove regards bob radford.
Mandy Foster-Wright sent this email confirming an identity in one of my school photographs.
Hi Paul, been looking at your photo's, on one you say 1964/65, you think it is Mark Faulkner, just to confirm it is right, he's my cousin, I recognised him before I read your description. Its my Auntie Rosie's (Foster) grandson. Auntie Rosie lived at the botton right hand corner of Middle Furlong Road, quiet spot for playing in the road. I lived at 70 Rupert St, my mum and dad were Jim and Peggy Foster. I sent you a message briefly the other night. Have just found my mums old Bero Book that she used to cook from, and the Prestige pressure cooker instruction book. Going to watch a programme now but if I get chance tomorrow I will scan them along with a Bosworth School Photo, and Rupert St photo that I sorted out. Keep up the good work, love your site, I live for the meadows and think about it most days. I hate life as it is and continiously wish I could turn back time. My lifetime in the Meadows was 1960-1974 I think, when they moved us out to St Anns. Will talk later Best wishes Mandy Foster-Wright By the way I have got Gibbo's poem book, can't get any other meadows books, my mum and sister have copies, my sister is in remembered in the agility team.
David Nunn sent out this plea for help for information from WW1
I am researching 4 people connected with the old Trent Bridge School who were killed in World War One. I wondered if you any contacts who may have knowledge of people or the area during this period. I am a retired teacher who began his career at the school in the early 1970s. Thanks very much, David Nunn
Ameena is looking for information about her great grand-parents who lived on Wilford Cresent West
Hi, I really enjoyed browsing through your website. This Christmas I discovered my family came from the meadows area, and used to live at 26 Wilford Crescent West, and attended a local methodist hall on Arkwright street. This was my great-grandparents George Ledgeard Camps, and his wife Daisy Camps (Whyler), and my grandfather Norman Clement Camps. They were definetely living there between 1917 (when my grandfather was born) and 1922, but I'm not sure of how long before or after these dates. My great-grandfather worked on the railway (Nottingham station), and was transferred to Birmingham in the mid-late 1920's. If you or anyone else has any photographs or more information about the area and people during this time I'd be really grateful, particularly about any methodist halls that may have existed during this time period. Thanks, Ameena P Camps
Can anyone remember Fiona's ancestors?
Dear Paul,
I came across your web site, and have enjoyed it very much. My great Grandfather had a Grocers shop and milk round from 31 Willersley St, up until about 1937. His name was Herbert William Hutchinson. I just wonder if by any chance you have any pictures.... just a thought! My Grand Father, and My Father were also born in that same house.
I do remember being shown the house as a small child, but it was long after the event, and memories are very vague. Any information would be much appreciated!
With thanks,
Fiona Hutchinson. fjhutchinson@lineone.net
Does anyone remember Elaine Langley's granny?
Hello,
My family were talking about memories past, I was born in the meadows, in Poets terrace, 1954, but left to live in Clifton at one year old, so spooky, the first web site I look at was yours, my Granny lived on Newcastle Road, we think No.27, her name was Anne Summers, I can remember our visits to see her very well, the echo as you walked down the passage to the back door, and looking at your web site so many memories came flooding back, i felt I just had to ask if you remember my Granny.
Yours Elaine Langley email. kennethj.langley@ntlworld.com
This memory comes from Wendy Rowley
hi there, my mum was born on blackstone st and later her parents went to live on freeth st, she use to tell us about playing tin-can lerky and going to the pawn shop every monday to pawn her dads suit but it had to be out for friday
wendy
Do you know these people?
hi, i have just accidentally just come across your site and am wondering if you could put an ad on your site please. i am trying to trace anyone that is from the lowe / marshall family
robert (fathers name) patricia (mothers name) last known address was 6 brookfield place, derwent st, meadows, nottingham.
this was some time ago and i am just wondering if any one that visits your site will know of these people. they had children, stephanie who may have been adopted or fostered out. a son called joe. a son called phillip. a daughter felecia. ( fliss) i am not sure if the children's surnames were marshall or lowe or both. i am trying to trace any of them on behalf of someone i know. i would be grateful for any information or if anyone knows the whereabouts at present especially the mother patricia marshall/lowe. any help would be very appreciated or advice on where else i may search any relatives that are around and could give me any info please get in touch. thank you anyone can email me at jacquelinehall@hotmail.co.uk.
Steve sends his memories of his aunt who lived on Newcastle Road
Hi there I am not from Nottingham, but had an Auntie who lived a few doors down from you on Newcastle Road for many years.
They lived at 22, and were Ray and Margeret Stevenson. They had a daughter Sandra. They are all dead now, though Sandra did have family. I wonder if you or any of your relatives remember them?
Ray used to work on the railways, and Sandra would have been about ten years older than you. I visited a couple of times in the mid 60s when I was a small boy.
I remember Sandra had a mini which I went for a ride in, and Uncle Ray took me and Dad over to the railway yards where he worked. In later life Sandra was a steward at Forest, travelling to home and away games.
My memories of Newcastle Road were of British Sherry purchased in jugs, soots on the pillows, an iron bath hanging up in the kitchen, and as far as 22 was concerned it was on a coal seam and the kitchen was coming away from the rest of the house.
Anyway a great site, and I will post something up on there when I have collected my thoughts.
Regards
Steve
Yvonne is trying to move forward with her family history
Subject: Sutton family
I have been researching my family and have discovered that my grandfather, William Sutton returned to the Meadows with his eldest son, William my father's brother apparently it would seem leaving his wife and younger son in London who was my father.
In the 1901 Census we can trace him to living at 5 Clyde Villas, The Meadows along with Robert and Elizabeth Sutton his mother and father, Ellie, Nathan, Bertha, Lillian, Sarah, Kate and Joseph Prince and Alice. At the time of the Census William (my grandfather) was aged 37) and his son William was aged 7.
As you are gathering stories about this area , I wonder if you may have received any stories that would include my family or if you have any knowledge of 5 Clyde Villas and the family or how I can go about finding out what happened to them etc. Any help you can give would be appreciated, we are able to trace back but not forward from this.
Many thanks
Yvonne Grimwood (formerly Sutton) email. william.grimwood@ntlworld.com
Steven Wyer's email brought back a few memories for me
Hello Paul You won't remember me because we never had much contact with
each other when I lived in the meadows but my brother Roy and I knew
your Martin very well.
We usually were playing football either on Bosworth school playing fields or on the playground itself (dodging the kids on the swings)and when it got too dark one of us would climb over the Gun factory wall and switch on their spot lamps to light up the play ground. There was normally the same group of us martin will probably remember these guys, Dave Shaw,Malcom Howman,Andrew Keetley and his brother who's name I can't recall the three Lees brothers Robert,Gary and Steve(I later worked with all three of them in the textile trade up to five years ago).
Then there were the Casey clan mostly girls Tina,Geraldine,Caroline and Marie then their brother Eddie they lived on Middle Furlong Road the gun factory end while the Lees brothers lived on Kings Meadow Road opposite me.
Also I was good mates with Pedro Richards who lived on Newcastle Road(he later went on to play for Notts County) sadly he died a few years ago he was 44 and lived in the new meadows.
The Mcgrain brothers Ian and Stuart lived on Goodhead Street,Kevin Charlesworth lived on Middle Furlong Road although he rarely came out to join us,also there were Tyson and Gilson.
we all used to use the youth club that was next to the playground until it was burned down.
Do you remember the corner shops Baz's the Green Grocer and on the opposite corner was Owens?
anyway I must get on now but give my best wishes to Martin if you are still in contact with him and thanks for a brilliant website.
all the best
Steve Wyer
John Hand has sent me his memories of his time at the ROF as well as some of his family photographs which are featured in the "floods" section of the site
Paul.
I lived "Inside" the gunfactory from about 1943-1950. My father was employed by the W.D police.
I remember the day we first arrived in Nottingham, and walked from Queens Road station to the factory. We were very unhappy with the area, the on street houses, and the general appearance of the place.
We were soon to learn not to judge by appearances. A more friendly, and honest group of people it would be impossible to find. (what has happened to change this?) My mother bought her groceries from Mrs Reckless at the corner shop. Harry Hodder had the grocers opposite, Until I was called up in 1946 I was an apprentice fitter in "South Shop" the Bofor breach Section. I built myself a small canvas cannoe which I used to wheel across the "Pad" to the trent. I would put it in the water near "Halfpenny Bridge" and spent many happy hours on the river. I under stand it was used during the floods to deliver goods in the area. I was in the army at that time. My sisters worked at Jardines, Hazel in the factory making Shells, and Jill in the offices. Mary the youngest went to Queens Road School. I have attached two photos. One of my father with the King outside the offices, and another of flooded North Shop. I hope the information on the gunfactory will soon be completed.
John Hand
Anyone know Tony Edis? If so get in touch at isabell.edis@ntlworld.com
hello paul
i.ve just stumbled on to this site. i was born in the meadows on derwent st.
i lived there early 60s late 70s
on the corner of derwent st was a shippos pub called the cricketers rest.
the families i remember are the wilsons; the rhodes; and the mullins
i have 2 brothers paul/ garry. and my sister pat.
i still live in the meadows area but it;s not like the old days.
if any body out there remembers me please get in touch.
i went to welbeck and
trent bridge. i left in 1969.
cheers tony edis
This email throws some light on another of my family photographs
Dear Paul,
I came across you excellent web site by chance.I was brought
up on Woolmer Rd and went to local schools. My mother,
Aunt ( who still lives on woolmer Rd ) and grandmother all worked with
Florence. I also knew her somewhat. I spoke to my mum last night and when
she comes up I will show her the 'site'. She thinks the first photograph is
taken at the Royal Show but not sure where. I think I recognise the waitress
on the right as a Betty Terry.
Did you grandmother live on Rye hill terrace near where to Rosie Burkett
lived? ( by Collingham footway)
I am very interested in the old history of the meadows and find your
pictures and narratives excellent.
Kind regards
Tony.
A plea for information about a pub name.
Hi,
I've just been looking through your wonderful website, as I am a descendant
of Meadows people. I know you are only covering from the Second World War
onwards, but I was just wondering if you could help me? My GGrandfather
owned the pub on London Road opposite the Ford Garage, which is now called
The Norfolk Arms. Do you know if it used to be called that? My Granddad used
to drive a horse and cart to pick up the beer barrels aged 14, and he met my
Grandma there, when she worked there as a bar maid (so it would have been
around 1928-1944). My Dad wasn't told a lot about it. I think they lived on
Crocus Street at one point. I have various pictures of my Gran's family at
home (they also lived in the Meadows) but I'd love to find a picture of what
the pub used to look like, or even one with my family in!! I have no idea
when the pub changed hands.
Thanks for your time,
I. Burton. email. ad4is@hotmail.com
A plea from Yvonne who is researching her family history
i have recently begun researching information on my mums family and would be interested if any people viewing your site will have pictures of essex street burtam street castleton street or buxton street.My grandad who unfortunately my mum never got to see because he died as a pow in java was born on essex street and later moved on to 3 Burtram street his name was samuel witts he later married a lily smith who lived at 24 london road any photos would be lovely to see
well done for a great site yvonne Email. vonmick@ntlworld.com
Paul is looking for infomation about his grandma and grandad and a tragic accident in the family.
Paul
As a former Nottingham lad I often think about where my family came from and know that on my Mothers side (SHAW) it was the Meadows. I seem to remember “2 Bunny Terrace” but can’t quite remember what street it was off other than it was the first house on the right walking down the Terrace. I liked the house because I remember that whenever I went I could always smell cooking and it was always what I call a “meat and two veg” smell. It was, I also remember, extremely small considering that Grandma had brought up four daughters and two sons, my mother being the second eldest of the daughters. I also remember an incident that resulted in the death of what would have been my uncle, from a gunshot wound (actually from the cleaning rod) by granddad. This resulted in headlines in the Nottingham Evening Post and whilst granddad was cleared of any wrongdoing the incident was rarely mentioned within the family. I would be interested to know if anyone might remember the family and even
have photographs of the Terrace or even the family. It is sad that while on my father’s side of the family we have many old photographs that on my mother’s side there are none at all. Grandma’s name was Annie Shaw and the daughters where Rene, Nina, Betty (my mother) and Sheila, the sons where Jack and I cannot remember the name of the son that died, if fact I may never have been actually told his name. I cannot remember granddads name and only met him a couple of times, grandma was always around and I remember her being in trouble for drinking too much and my mother fetching her home from the “Porters Arms” (I think) I thought it hilarious seeing grandma drunk, bearing in mind I would be about 7 or 8 at the time.
Any further information on the above would be greatly appreciated Best regards,
Paul Bottomore Email. paul@vsluk.com
A memory from Iris Tolley in New Zealand
I used to spend holidays with friends of my mothers, at 96 Bathley Street during the 1940's and actually learned to swim in the river Trent on that flattish area near one of the bridges. My memories of the street are of a long, long row of houses and the small yard at the back where I played. I came from a country area in Derbyshire. The family I stayed with was named CURTIS and the mother of the house had asthma which she treated with a concoction called Potter's asthma cure, it was a powder which was then lit and the fumes breathed in, I don't know whether or not it worked but it certainly had a strong smell. Some things you never forget.
Happy memories from Elaine
just a couple of houses up from the main gun factory gates lived my great grandma and grandad john and elizabeth hunt, they had three girls....lillian who married jack norrish, nancy who stayed single and worked on the buses as a clippy, and my grandmother lucy who married frank whittle. if anyone has any more information or pictures it would be great. lillian and jack stayd in the meadows and had 4 children, john, gren, maureen and linda, before moving to clifton.
i can still remember my grandparents even though i was young (born 1956). i also remember that when i ran away from home, the first place i went to were to my cousins in the meadows, what a great place and lovely memories they were.
regards
elaine wraith
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